The US Church-Market Crash!
The following was in the comment box - I wanted to respond to it in the form of a blog . . . .
Randy Ehle says:
Sep 30, 2008 at 10:29 PM
In less than 36 hours I will be leaving Portland with a team from our church heading to Liberia for 12 days. This is the first foray into what we anticipate will be a long-term partnership in the region, a significant piece of which will involve encouraging and training pastors. Earlier today I received a list of questions they have asked for help with; four of the five areas focused on money (Biblical teaching, prosperity gospel, church and pastoral accountability for money, and issues of money between Americans and Africans). The other question was on the role of a pastor.
One thing I’ve been wondering since getting that list was how much of the present financial situation in the US can be translated into the current situation in Liberia - a country that was devastated by a 14-year civil war and is just over the past couple of years getting its footing again. Your prayers (and input) would be greatly appreciated.
Randy - here’s my response:
Just like the U.S. is sending economic tidal waves across the world so we do the same with our expression of Christianity. Emerging economies are devastated by our level of greed to the degree many would like to be freed from the “dollar” and come up with another form of currency.
The real “emerging church” not the post-Western, postmodern, but as Fareed Zacharias would say, the “Post-American” church has already shifted it’s spiritual currency and is booming. The problem is, there are many pockets of western religious imperialism that continue to dictate what Christianity looks like - and from a primarily Western format. In the West, we all admit we don’t even have a good handle on what the “church” looks like - but we have no hesitation in exporting our past expressions despite our current frustrations or even failures for that matter.
Notice the majority of the questions are on money. If it were a group of Chinese, Middle-Easter, South American Christians going to partner in the same way - do think they would be asked those questions? Why are you being asked those questions? One reason, that’s what we talk about. He truly has become the “God of all comfort/consumers!”
When the rest of the world looks at the church in America - what do they see that they want? What do we have that they want? The only thing we have that they might want is money and security - and both of those things are draining right now! Does God promise us he’ll take care of us? Of coarse. Are there principles of sowing and reaping? Of coarse. BUT, when that’s our primary message - instead of a discipleship principle - where did our message go? Have we lost the message?
Training pastors . . . ? Go easy - be careful - Greek is Greek and history is history - but orthopraxy must be contextualized. Look for healthy expressions of the church in West Africa - they’re there, and help them connect with that. Facilitate development and relationships through engagement. In that way, believe it or not, they’ll begin to help you see the church through fresh eyes and will help you “reengineer” the church in the West. They have more to teach us, than we do them - not to say we have no value. But to say, we are now the 3rd largest mission field. We need help. So - go help, but tell them how lost we are. Discover what they have that is beautiful and ask them to help us here and bring their goods and wares to us as well - we need them.



Comments
Oct 1, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Bob, I won't take the space to include the list of questions that we were given, but from my perspective they are healthy ones. For example, they recognize the cultural differences between African and American views of money, the potential for dependency, etc. They're wondering about financial accountability for pastors and churches, the prosperity gospel, etc. And I am right with you in our need to learn from them and get them learning from each other. I don't know if it was David Livermore ("Serving With Eyes Wide Open") or Duane Elmer ("Cross-Cultural Servanthood"), but one of those authors wrote of the need for us to learn from and learn with our hosts.
Providentially, the text I'm supposed to be reflecting on this week for a theology class is 1 Cor 2, where Paul describes his attitude of humility in approaching the Corinthians. Pray that we would have that same attitude over the next couple weeks. Thanks for your input and prayers.
Oct 1, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Bob, thanks for the post. Lot of value there. But I would also offer a couple of additional thoughts.
1. Regarding money, if we have it, why not share it. In fact, I believe that one of the reasons for our present situation is due to our own greed. We spent a whole lot of cash on bigger and plusher “campuses” instead of sending it overseas.
2. I would also be cautious about totally jettisoning the idea that we have something to offer. While we do have some huge problems in the American church, we do have some things to share, just like our brothers and sisters across the borders have something to share with us. While I have learned a lot from humbly being with international churches and actually living overseas for a while, I have also witnessed big problems as well. I mean mankind is still man no matter where he was raised. One of the things that we offered while living in the former Soviet Union would be close to what is called the “Protestant Work Ethic” which was sorely needed for new Christ followers who were used to the State always taking care of them. For some of them the lesson was to heed Paul’s exhortation that “if a man will not work he will not eat.”
I think the key is not to go overseas as “Know-it-alls” on the one hand, nor as pre-ks on the other. But rather just to share as brothers in Christ. Hey, let’s pray, have some borsch, and just share.
Oct 2, 2008 at 02:03 PM
I agree with you on both items - I said we still have something to offer - I just think a lot more to learn!
Oct 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM
I think the fundamental thing is the mindset or the attitude to which we approach cross cultural service. Is it with open mind, hands, and heart or is it one that although my answers may be flawed they are better then what they are going now.
Oct 6, 2008 at 08:23 AM
Bob,
I loved this post and it brings up something that perhaps is totally off subject but I thought I would ask your opinion. First let me say that I love the work that you are doing in church planting and missions around the globe. I love this.
But you highlight something that is on my heart a lot lately. Namely that there is such emphasis (rightly so) on taking the gospel to places where Christ is not named (not your point but it is there), but I am scared out of my mind for the churches in America that do name the name of Christ.
We have turned church into an amusement park, book club, and ways to make money at the worst and at best we have done good works because in places that we don't speak about in polite company we think God will look on our good works and smile. We have left the new testament idea that Jesus will return one day and clingly only to Jesus' sacrifice will we be saved--and that good works flows from this. We no longer know how to pray and discern the direction of the Lord. We call book-study bible-study and we teach the doctrines of men as the doctrines of God. Church in america is about buildings. But what would happen if persecution came to the united states in a severe manner as it is in other parts of the world. Could we as a body function under ground? Would groups of believers still meet together? Could we take care of the believers. I contend more is spoken in the new testament about taking care of each other as in Christians than in those outside (not that it is excluded). Do non believers see our love for one another and desire that love or are we creating a welfare state?
This is the story of my life, as one raised in a Christian home and brought up in church. I am the poster child for what is wrong with Christianity in the west. Thanks for all the work you do. I am praying for you.
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